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The Crystal Ball for the Governor's Race

by: Grace Kelly

Mon Mar 08, 2010 at 15:11:18 PM CST


The campaign that builds excitement is going to win. I think MAK has the best technical direction. MAK people have picked up on entering many subcaucuses to build a perception of huge support. (Expect 50 subcaucuses at conventions this weekend, as other campaigns follow suit.) I think Rybak has the best spirit and political theater. I saw that Ryback group doing the wave yesterday in subcaucuses. Rybak supporters left energized and happy.  
Grace Kelly :: The Crystal Ball for the Governor's Race
First of all, let me say that I am an auto (a.k.a super) delegate who is decidedly neutral (save the calls). My vote is neutral because I am holding it to keep the contest fair and friendly, then unite the party. Some of the auto delegates have stated rules for how they are going to vote like many party leaders will only vote when a candidate reaches 51% to help aid that candidate to endorsement. What that means is that 20 swing votes could make a huge difference near 50%, because then the for-endorsement voting kicks in.

I think what you are all missing is what happens to the second choice votes of candidates who will be forced to drop out early. What if John Marty's 49 votes and Matt Entenza's 25 votes go to RT Rybak and Tom Rukavina's  41 votes and Tom Bakk's 20 votes go to MAK?

Would someone like Paul Thissen, bargain his 58.5 votes for Lt. governorship, with perhaps a better chance in a future run for governor? Would his votes even follow his recommendation? What will RENEW bargain for votes? Would John Marty bargain for more single payer support?

If Entenza goes for endorsement and loses, then does that not create a perception of having already lost? If Entenza is going to win by advertisement and a ground swell of support, then why didn't he use ads the week before precinct caucuses?

Can Dayton win the primary without the incredible cadre of supporters that people like Rybak are building? And if the primary race is a doorknock/calling DFL campaign vs television ads in the dead heat of summer, then who will win? Especially if Entenza and Dayton split the television advertising vote. Add to this, the impact that August is vacation month, the dead month in all advertising. In June and July, TV is dead and the sunlight activities entice people outside. So I would expect virtually the same primary election results as the precinct caucus night results, which would mean that the DFL endorsed candidate would win.

In my crystal ball, the bargaining for votes and the second choice persuasions will determine our DFL candidate for governor. Based on previous experience, I think that second choice persuasions will likely be coming from fellow delegates more than candidates. That means momentum and excitement will matter.

Ah, my phone is ringing.

Ring, ring?

Have you thought about who you are supporting for governor?

Yes, Matt Bostrom for Ramsey County Sheriff and John Choi for Ramsey County Attorney!

Because other races matter too!

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Don't candidates have to announce their running mates before the balloting begins at the convention? Or is to so, pardon the pun, mere convention? If they have to declare first, there can't be a deal to make a rival lt. governor unless a rival is willing to drop out first.

No, Lt Governor candidate can come later recalling 2006 (0.00 / 0)
Hatch named Dutcher after he got the endorsement. Don't remember when Lourey named hers. Kelley never named one before he conceded.

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not quite accurate (0.00 / 0)
Hatch did indeed not name Dutcher until after the convention. Lourey named hers ahead of time (do not recall his name) and so did Steve Kelley -- he announced then-State Rep. Ruth Johnson about two weeks before the convention.

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Dayton (0.00 / 0)
You're forgetting that Seniors all across MN love Dayton. They won't forget what he did for them during his senate years. And it's Seniors who get out to vote. The Baby Boomers are now seniors. They are the highest percentage of the voting population.

Not only that, but Dayton's name recognition is almost 100%. So I definitely wouldn't rule him out, even if he runs against Rybak.

Don't cook your own goose.


I agree! (0.00 / 0)

All of the seniors that I talk to light up when they hear the name DAYTON.  I am certain they aren't concerned with his record as senator, but instead remember that name with fondness.  And the senior vote has a very high impact in mid-term elections, so I would bet that Dayton is the favorite in the primary for now.  

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Consider the "disenfranchised DFLer" factor... (0.00 / 0)
Please read my post about my friend who was froze out of a delegate seat by the local DFL clique- she's one of thousands of DFLers who don't have the time and connections to obtain a delegate seat in Duluth. I suspect they'll get even by voting for anyone but the endorsed candidate.

Can't Support Rybak (0.00 / 0)
The GOP Convention and the antics surrounding it prohibit that for me.

BTW, I guess I am on here as George Campbell. I apologize for reading you the riot act on the phone this evening. My frustration with a number of things having to do with the DFL these days gets the better of me sometimes.

I'll be at the District 67 convention on Saturday. Sadly, I can't put myself forward as a state delegate this year, since family obligations keep me in Saint Paul on those dates.

George Campbell
http://saintpaulw6p13.blogspot...

MineralMan on DU
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GOP Convention (0.00 / 0)
I know that Mayor Coleman had a big role in the problems at the GOP convention - can you enlighten me as to how Rybak was involved?  

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Both city mayors bent over backwards to accommodate (0.00 / 0)
the GOP and the convention. Both mayors participated in the "unpleasantness" that occurred. I do not consider Rybak to be a progressive. Too much emphasis on "things" and not enough on  people, in my opinion.

In my opinion, for whatever that's worth, I put the needs of people far above the need for structures. Drinking fountains fall way down on my list, while education, health care, services for those who are suffering, and other people issues are at the top.

My vote always goes to the most progressive candidate who can win the election. I see that as the only way to move this state and this country in a progressive direction.

MineralMan on DU
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Pleasure to have you as part of the conversation (0.00 / 0)
We are all trying to make things better in our own way. The levels of frustration have been high for many people.

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