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John Choi, the Best Choice for Ramsey County Attorney

by: Grace Kelly

Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 13:51:52 PM CDT


I, Grace Kelly, am fully endorsing John Choi for Ramsey County Attorney. In the process of doing research in making the decision about endorsement for this critical local race, I personally tested John Choi's major focus, restorative justice, in my own life and it profoundly changed my life. In reviewing John Choi's work as St Paul city attorney, I find him to be a politically courageous leader who is actively

  • improving justice for the economically disadvantaged

  • improving justice disparity in racial and in cultural areas

  • putting pressure on corporations to act better in foreclosures

  • holding to the same standards of justice in processing all cases despite political pressure

  • using foresight to improve our St Paul budget problems

  • being open to the public and the press, including citizen journalists like me

  • willing to meet with citizen groups in a dialog that was openly critical instead of staying inside of a comfortable shell of communication

  • using restorative justice actively to improve our community
  • Indeed John Choi's work is now a model for other cities. International Municipal Lawyers Association is giving John Choi a major Joseph I. Mulligan Jr. Distinguished Public Service Award in October. This is a story where you will want to follow the details, below the fold.  

    Grace Kelly :: John Choi, the Best Choice for Ramsey County Attorney
    John Choi is actively making justice better for the economically disadvantaged. The justice system is usually a Catch-22 system where people who can't pay are caught in downward spiral. The lack of ability to pay fines causes them to lose driving privileges and to lose access to jobs, which further reduces their ability to pay the fines. John Choi set up the driver diversion program so people can still drive while making payments.

    John Choi is actively making justice better for different racial groups and different cultural groups. My cultural norm is treat the police with extreme courtesy. In some cultures, defending one's friends and one's family, even in the case of police, is considered the honorable way to be. Police can take that defense and make it a charge of Obstruction of Legal Process, a catch all charge. John Choi worked on actively changing the processes and procedures of both the police and his office to reduce the number of Obstruction of Legal Process charges from 568 in 2006 to 399 in 2008, a 30% improvement. John Choi even monitored the other catch all charge of Disorderly Conduct to ensure that it stayed constant. This is the real hard work of making government better.

    John Choi is actively developing and using local and national foreclosure strategies to put pressure on corporations to treat people better in foreclosures and to recycle vacant houses faster. He is working with the "Multi-City Working Group on Foreclosures," a coalition of 20 cities acting together to gain political power and to share legal strategies that are working.

    John Choi has had strong political pressure to hurry up the processing of cases from Republican National convention. John Choi has explained that it would not be fair to all the other cases in his office, for these cases to be given priority. And indeed he has totally resisted pressure to change his standards or processes for Republican National convention cases. This is a unique resistance to political pressure. For once an act being done at a political event is being treated the same as an act at a sporting event.

    Normally cities self insure when it involves police actions, which the recent stories about Minneapolis payouts demonstrate. John Choi recommended and instituted the purchase of a $10 million insurance policy for the Republican National Convention. While I and others did see this act as giving more encouragement to police misconduct, I also must admit that the history of security events makes this an eminently practical decision that will save St Paul a huge amount of money.

    Both before and after the Republican National Convention, John Choi has been open to the public and the press, including citizen journalists like me. John Choi was part of the six community meetings before the convention. I have had two interviews with John Choi since the convention. Last night, I saw John Choi speak before the "St Paul Citizens for Justice" group, that had many tough questions for him. Normally I would expect a politician to stay in a safe shell away from a possible critical group. John Choi spoke from the heart in an open way that really impressed this group and frankly healed relationships and trust.

    The other three candidates for Ramsey county attorney are all excellent lawyers, with demonstrated community helping projects that are impressive. All the other candidates did speak eloquently of defending civil rights and "one justice for all". Yet when questioned, all of the other candidates admitted that he or she had not taken any political leadership on the biggest issue before Ramsey county attorney's office this year - the Republican National Convention. Each one admitted that he or she had not given a speech nor even written a letter-to-the-editor about a Republican National Convention issue before he or she started campaigning. I find that to be an incredible lack of courage and leadership at time when our community needed such leadership. So John Choi stands out for actually having led in this difficult time, when his actions were highly critiqued, while all the other candidates stayed safely quiet.

    In my interview with John Choi, he spoke of how bringing victims, police, offenders and all of the players together in a open hearted sharing of views transforms the people involved and transforms the community. This is restorative justice. Indeed John Choi says that his restorative justice experiences have made him more fully aware how life transforming an experience with the police and his department can be. As a consequence, John is more committed to improving the entire process.

    I like to test every new idea. So I set out to test the idea of restorative justice. I don't have the same opportunity that John Choi has. So I set out to do a number of one on one interviews that focused more on dialog and discussion instead of just information gathering. In restorative justice, the topics are emotionally charged so I chose an emotional subject for me, the Republican National Convention. I have reported these discussions in articles here before, but this time I want to focus on the changes that happened to me - the transformational aspects of this type of dialog.

    I talked with Nigel Parry in a phone interview and in a long note discussion. I admire Nigel Parry because of his extraordinary collection of Republican National Convention documents. I was surprised by some of directions and judgments of Nigel Parry's thinking that was not revealed by his reporting. Nigel Parry challenged the way that I report, since I was reporting the flow of the conversation more than the "he said, she said" style of reporting. That type of reporting would feel to me in this context as more of "gotcha" reporting that is polarizing, that fixes people in place instead displaying the evolution of conversational change. It was a very good point and still has me contemplating what kind of reporter I am.

    Matt Bostrom is the Assistant Chief of the St Paul Police, who had major portion of decision making power at Republican National Convention. To say that I have been critical of police actions at the Republican National Convention is an understatement. So I was surprised that Matt Bostrom did agree to an interview, even allowing me the location of my favorite coffee shop. Despite my best intentions, I was at times very contentious, which I am still apologizing for. However, Matt Bostrom was very patient and open. So I ended up rethinking all of the decisions from his perspective. While I still could not always agree with decisions, I found that I could respect those decisions. Matt Bostrom was also very open to looking for better ways and being an advocate for change. OK, I even challenged him on this, asking for citations and studies, which he later sent. There is a huge sense of inner relief in me about feeling able to trust the St Paul police again. In spite of myself and to my immense surprise, I now have a deep respect for Matt Bostrom and the work that he does. I trust his leadership at any large event, like the Obama healthcare event that we just had.

    The next interview was with Mike McIntee, from the Uptake, a person I have often worked with. Yet this was the first time that I had ever gone beyond work conversations with Mike. Mike was not as affected by the Republican National convention intimidation for he has covered wars. Mike is deeply committed to the government being transparent. His perspectives caused me to think about how I would have judged the Republican National Convention if the intimidation factor had been totally removed? How would I have judged the broken windows and dropped sandbags if that had happened at my local Grand Old Days parade? I felt that my next article was infinitely better for these challenges.

    I am not done with the planned interviews, yet even my test in restorative justice has truly changed me and my writing. So I wonder if in some way, we could do restorative justice on whole political communities. OK, I admit this test is way more than most people do before an endorsement. However I wanted to not just blindly assume that something worked.

    With this experience, I definitely endorse restorative justice and the restorative justice advocate, John Choi, for Ramsey County attorney.  

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    I'd just like to remind everybody..... (0.00 / 0)
    ...that endorsements from someone writing here on MnPP, are the endorsement of that person that wrote the endorsement, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the other Contributors - Kelly's endorsement is as an individual.

    Please do NOT read into the above anything more than I just wrote; I don't know enough about the candidates in that race to make an informed endorsement (even if I were so inclined to do so - which I'm not).


    "Those that forget the lessons of history, tend to vote GOP"


    Thank you (0.00 / 0)
    Since we discussed policy, I did not realize that we have never had an occasion to make that policy public!

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    No Problemo, Kelly!!! (0.00 / 0)
    Your pal,

    TPT

    "Those that forget the lessons of history, tend to vote GOP"


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    Choi and Pinto both post here on MPP (0.00 / 0)
    More info from Choi's campaign manager, Cory Tennison, can be found here

    Dave Pinto can be found here


    Choi and Fletcher (0.00 / 0)
    Wow! Ms Kelly spends a lot of time trying to justify Mr.  Choi and Mr Fletchers role regarding the Republican National Convention . The facts are that Mr. Choi worked hand and hand with Sherrif Bob Fletcher to deny us our Constitutional Rights to Protest. He helped limit access to facilities, allowed innocent bystanders to be swept up in mass arrests and basically turned St. Paul into a para military camp. And to top it off he secured insurance to make it all possible.

    It seems Mr. Choi was not standing up to the political powers at all but rather doing the dirty work to make sure St. Paul came across looking good on national TV. Public perceptio ruled the day.  Our rights be damned. In the end Choi quietly let cases die. Now for him that's good politics. But unfortunately Mr Choi we will remember if you are on the ballot a year from now.    


    Let them die? (0.00 / 0)
    Not before losing nearly every contested case he prosecuted.    

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    Separate Roles (0.00 / 0)
    Fletcher and Choi had very different roles, see previous article by me.  

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    Yes (0.00 / 0)
    Fletcher violated their civil liberties in the streets, and Choi violated them in the courtroom.  You can't separate the two.  

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    What's Choi's Bag with the GLBT Community?! (0.00 / 0)
    Hrmm... I can't really say anything pro or con about him because a.) I don't know anything about him and b.) I don't live in Ramsey County! But, I have many LGBT friends who live in St Paul and the surrounding communities and there's nothing in here (that I found) that discusses his views towards equality for hte gay community.

    Gay Marriage?

    Equal Rights for Medical Access for GLBT Couples?

    Protection of Family Predatory Practices on GLBT Families who have children?

    Nuttin!

    Well, there you have my two-cents worth.  Golly, Ms Kelly... You sure do a lot of studyin' to write the piece!!

    Woot! Woot!

    Mark


    Very much for GLBT rights (0.00 / 0)
    I just could not everything into one article.

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    Wow (0.00 / 0)
    As someone who gets worked up about the RNC convention, I can't believe you are endorsing Choi and whitewashing his awful record.  Choi has charged out numerous cases against non-violent protesters, and at last count had gone 1 for 34 in obtaining convictions in constested cases.  On one set of cases that was dismissed:

    "Judge Michael Fetsch dismissed the charges at the end of the prosecution's case, ruling that even if the jury believed all of the prosecution's evidence, there was not sufficient evidence to support a conviction."

    http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/a...

    The funny part is that afterwards Choi said he still thought they could have obtained a convictions.  WTF?

    The one conviction resulted in a $50 fine, and that case is being appealed.  

    If you are not a big fan of civil liberties, and you like to see taxpayer money divered from parks and libraries and spent on frivolous prosections, John Choi is your man.  


    Standards (0.00 / 0)
    1) John Choi's standard for prosecution is a reasonable chance for success. He is saying the case met his standard even if he lost in court.

    2) John Choi is handling $50 fine cases here, in St Paul we frequently get parking fines, so this is a not a huge risk nor burden on a St Paul citizen.

    3) John Choi's other standard was to treat every RNC case the same as any other case, should the RNC case be different because mostly white richer people were involved?

    The civil liberties violations are more because of the police arrest, the upgrading to felony convictions happening in Susan Gaertner Ramsey county court, premptive arrests by the FBI and the premptive arrests by Sheriff Fletcher.

    So yes, I am saying looking at each individual responsibility and part separately. Do not mass arrest the police and prosecutors.


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    Wrong (0.00 / 0)
    1) The problem is that Choi doesn't know what a reasonable chance for success is.  In the case I cited, the judge found that even if the prosecution proved all its facts, there was no case - i.e., that the charges were frivolous.  Even after the beatdown by the judge, Choi still thought he could have obtained a conviction.  That is what you call gross incompetence.

    2) Clearly your understanding of the law here is very poor.  He isn't just handling $50 cases.  Its just that his prosecution efforts have been such a miserable failure that he has only obtained one $50 fine.  I would expect the burden is pretty high on those frivolously charged by Choi.  It is also a huge burden on cash-strapped St. Paul and its citizens because these prosecutions have cost the city hundreds of thousdands of dollars.

    3) I wasn't aware that the victims of Choi's prosecutorial abuse were white and rich, and I am not sure why that is even an issue.  These cases are not like other cases.  These are non-violent protesters that Choi is seeking to punish for excercising free speech.

    The civil liberties violations began with the police and continued with Choi, who went on record supporting everything the police did.  

    Grace, I hope to never see you complaining about Bob Fletcher, Susan Gaertner, or anything relating to the RNC, because if you do that and you are willing to whitewash Choi's actions, you are a huge hypocrite.  


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    I feel your pain (0.00 / 0)
    Remember I was there at the poor people's camp tear down, there at Mear's park intensity and covering every march except 2.

    So I totally accept that you are rightfully angry.

    As a peacemaker, one of my commitments is to walk in all shoes, to see all perspectives, to talk to all sides. If you read my articles, then you know that I admitted that I totally lost it in one interview and started yelling at someone. So this has been a struggle for me too.

    I do believe there are differences in who did what at the RNC: peace team, NLG, medics, Cold snap leg collective, RNC welcoming committee, protesters, citizens, black bloc anarchists, Secret Service, FBI, St Paul coalition, Sheriff fletcher, John Choi and Susan Gaertner. I ask you to also look for the differences.

    Also, you might do what I did and ask for an interview based on sharing feelings and views with John Choi, testing out the idea of restorative justice. See if it works.


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    Restorative justice involves (0.00 / 0)
    perceiving -- if not admitting, on the part of the perpetrator -- that a wrong was committed. But Grace, when it come to Mr. Choi, you apparently see no wrong that he has committed in his handling of the RNC cases. That eliminates any need for "restorative justice." Surely it doesn't just mean listening to what others have to say, which is how you seem to want to use it.

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    John Choi did a very good job (0.00 / 0)
    Absolutely John Choi committed no wrong! He did a very good job in his role! Other parts of the RNC process and people in RNC roles have major problems. However that coverage has been in many other articles written on the site!

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    I don't know. Color me stupid, (0.00 / 0)
    but a conviction rate of 3% has to say something. Either we have an epidemic of runaway juries -- and only in RNC cases at that -- or Mr. Choi has brought cases to trial that should never have been brought. Do you have an alternative explanation for the 3% figure?

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    Your 3% is bogus (0.00 / 0)
    just like the rest of your arguments

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    Thank you. (0.00 / 0)
    That was most elucidating.

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    Please clarify (0.00 / 0)
    Grace, when Dan, in comment #10 above, mentioned the 1 out of 34 convictions in contested cases, you didn't say the figure was "bogus." You responded that "John Choi's standard for prosecution is a reasonable chance for success." When I mentioned the same statistic (1 out of 34 is 3%), you call it "bogus." I really am asking for an alternative explanation. A prosecutor who loses that many contested cases must 1) have lots of juries that are not ruling on the facts and the law; 2) be bringing cases to court that should not be brought; or 3) be incredibly unlucky. I really would like to know if there are other possibilities. I am not making an argument. This is a genuine question, and with your encouraging people to be open in their judgments, that is what I am trying to be. Please explain why the 3% figure is not bogus in your response to comment #10, and now it is. Please give me another explanation for the lack of convictions in contested cases.

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    Why 3% is bogus (0.00 / 0)
    First of all, 80% of the cases were given a ticket but never charged. They shouldn't count. Second of all, the standard is that cases should only go through that the prosecutor believes has a reasonable chance at trials. Remember we are working toward justice here, not high prosecution rates. A 100% rate does not equal justice so your whole premise of judging quality by percentage is just very wrong from a justice point of view. And last of all, it is clear from your comments over time is that you are just a very mean person who likes attacking and condeming.

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    You are correct (0.00 / 0)
    in that I should have said 3% of the contested cases. But I never claimed a 100% conviction rate equalled justice. I am not judging quality by conviction rates. I am judging a prosecutor by his/her ability to determine if a conviction is warranted by the evidence.
    You are wrong about me being a "mean person." I never attacked you personally; you did that to me.
    Finally, here is a part of the ABA Standard for a prosecutor's charging decision: "A prosecutor should not institute, cause to be instituted, or permit the continued pendency of criminal charges in the absence of sufficient admissible evidence to support a conviction." ABA Standard 3-3.9(a), 2nd sentence. There is nothing there about "reasonable chance." Please respond to what is said rather than attacking people personally.

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