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The GOP's Tortured Logic

by: TwoPuttTommy

Fri Aug 21, 2009 at 11:33:42 AM CDT


The video includes appearances by Oliver Stone, 9/11 family member Patricia Perry, actors Rosie Perez, Noah Emmerich, John Doman and Reg E. Cathey, and musical composer Philip Glass, among others, reading directly from a memo authored by Jay Bybee, former head of the Justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel under the Bush administration. The memo was released in April as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the ACLU.

For more information, visit:
http://www.aclu.org/torturedlogic

Ladies and Gentlemen, I received the following via e-mail:

Opponents of torture will rally at the University of St. Thomas School of Law, LaSalle Ave and 11th Street, Minneapolis, on Monday, August 24, 9 - 11 AM to bring letters and voices of discontent to Dean Thomas Mengler regarding Professor Robert Delahunty.  Prior to his current stint as professor of constitutional law for St.Thomas University, Robert Delahunty, along with John Yoo, authored an infamous memo (1/9/02) for the U.S. Justice Department which advised that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to the war against al Qaeda, the Taliban, and terrorism. The 'legal' advice of this memo helped the Bush administration to legitimize harsh methods of interrogation, which are widely understood to be torture.
 

There's more, after the break.....                                                                                    

TwoPuttTommy :: The GOP's Tortured Logic
                                                                                     

The mission statement of St. Thomas University School of Law, posted currently at the University web site, reads, "The University of St. Thomas School of Law, as a Catholic law school, is dedicated to integrating faith and reason in the search for truth through a focus on morality and social justice".  Given this mission statement, many of us who also care about morality and social justice, wonder how the University of St.Thomas can justify maintaining Professor Delahunty on its teaching staff.  We also wonder why Dean Mengler finds it necessary to defend Professor Delahunty.  Is it the position of the University of St.Thomas Law School that Professor Delahunty's position on torture is morally correct?  Come to the rally August 24 (first day of classes) to hold Professor Delahunty and The University of St. Thomas Law School accountable.

For those who are willing to make it a slightly longer day, some of us will be marching with our banners and letters of discontent from The Center for Human Rights at the U of M to the rally at St. Thomas School of Law. We will be also carrying a copy of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, given to us by The Center for Human Rights. We hope that Dean Mengler and Robert Delahunty will read it. The Center for Human Rights is located in Mondale Hall, University of Minnesota, on the west bank (229 19th Ave. So). We will gather outside the north entrance of Mondale Hall at 7AM.  The 2 mile march will begin promptly at 7:15.  The march will go straight down Washington Avenue to Nicollet, turn left on Nicollet to 11th Ave, then turn right to St. Thomas University.

That's next Monday morning; see you there.

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All of this is solved with one simple question.... (0.00 / 0)
What would we do if these things were done to our soldiers or citizens?

It is not even a hypothetical question. We would execute the torturer.

(I do not in any way support the death penalty, but historically that is what we have done to people perpetrating these crimes)


Wiretapping still occuring... (0.00 / 0)
Two Putt:

I just figured out, with the help of Kelly, that I got this quote from you:

"NOTICE: The National Security Agency ("NSA") of the United States may have read this email without warning, warrant, nor notice, nor legislative or judicial oversight. You may not review the secret file so derived nor challenge actions resulting from it. The US President, through the use of "signing statements", further reserves the right to circumvent any legislation restricting this exercise of executive authority or assigning executive accountability. For this reason the owner of this email account cannot ensure the privacy of this communication."

I use it at the bottom of all my emails.

Thanks.  Hope you don't mind...


Mark, I'm glad you're using it, too. (0.00 / 0)
Here's how it used to read:

NOTICE:  The National Security Agency ("NSA") of the United States may have read this email without warning, warrant, nor notice, nor legislative or judicial oversight.  You may not review the secret file so derived nor challenge actions resulting from it.  The US President, through the use of "signing statements", further reserves the right to circumvent any legislation restricting this exercise of executive authority or assigning executive accountability.  For this reason the owner of this email account cannot ensure the privacy of this communication.

I changed it to the new one, after this:

http://www.mnprogressiveprojec...

"Those that forget the lessons of history, tend to vote GOP"


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My bad! (0.00 / 0)
You're using the old one; here's the new one!

NOTICE:  Due to policy instituted during the Bush Administration, the National Security Agency ("NSA") of the United States may have read this email without warning, warrant, nor notice, nor legislative or judicial oversight.  You may not review the secret file so derived nor challenge actions resulting from it.  The US President, through the use of "signing statements", further reserves the right to circumvent any legislation restricting this exercise of executive authority or assigning executive accountability.  The current US President seeks to expand  this policy.    For this reason the owner of this email account cannot ensure the privacy of this communication.


"Those that forget the lessons of history, tend to vote GOP"

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Thanks! (0.00 / 0)
Thanks TPT.  I have a new disclaimer...

[ Parent ]

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