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Gaertner: 'it's about leadership'

by: Joe Bodell

Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 20:55:27 PM CDT


In such a large DFL field (at least eight candidates at last count), can Ramsey County Attorney Susan Gaertner stand out?

"As a county attorney, you have to make decisions every day that could end your political career. All kinds of things are said in the media, on the blogs. But it's my job. When I'm Governor, I'm not going to be afraid to make tough decisions. The number one problem with Tim Pawlenty is that his decision-making has been about the future interests of Tim Pawlenty.

"Education issues, health care, environmental issues, public safety, all these issues to me come down to the need for leadership."

When we discussed those tough decisions, we were talking about the 2008 Republican National Convention. The event was held in Gaertner's jurisdiction, and the arrests and turmoil on the ground have earned her some barbs from the Peace community and other groups.

Gaertner, however, took it in stride.

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Joe Bodell :: Gaertner: 'it's about leadership'
"The controversy that I think is fairly focused on me is the 8 charges of conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism. That's the decision that I think the discussion really boils down to (fair discussion) I take responsibility for decision to charge those 8 cases, that my job to make those decisions ... We cannot, do not file charges unless we believe that it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that a felony crime occurred. Are we criminalizing dissent? Not in our view.

"I've had meetings with numerous folks who have questions, concerns, disagree with me, are outraged about RNC charges, and I have been more than willing to sit down and talk it through. To our legislators, I say 'don't pass laws you don't want enforced.' It was not my decision to pass a law which, in our view, clearly covers the charged conduct and makes it an act of terrorism."

It's a controversy I'm quite certain will continue throughout the race for the Capitol's corner office. But we did discuss other issues, and Gaertner focused on education as the issue as the center of...well, everything.

Education is the infrastructure of everything else that goes on in state government. There's a huge range of bad outcomes that happen because of school failures. Preservation of our environment - one of ways to get there is through education. Health care is another example - public health is enhanced the more people are educated academically and practically about their health care choices.

"One of the problems is that we're so far in the hole right now, that there's no easy way out of the hole Tim Pawlenty's dug for us. He's made the whole education system cut so close to the bone that cuts now would be into the bone itself. We need stable education funding."

On taxes, Gaertner struck a pragmatic tone, but one that should find willing listeners in the DFL endorsement race.

"Our tax system needs to be less regressive. We needs to start by equalizing the playing field where the top tier of Minnesotans pay less percentage-wise than the middle class or lower income categories.

"Not many people think that people at the highest income bracket should take less responsibility for the tax system. We have to get away from relying on revenue streams like property taxes and look at things like current structure of sales tax, corporate taxes, income taxes, find out what is going to get us through these ups and downs."

So back to the original question -- can Susan Gaertner distinguish herself in a large and well-qualified field of DFL candidates? She's abiding by the DFL endorsement, which means that she'll be done by June of next year if she doesn't win the party's backing. She's as qualified -- more so, in terms of tenure as a County Attorney -- than Amy Klobuchar was when she was elected to the U.S. Senate. She faces obstacles from her local DFL, where she faced a stiff endorsement challenge in 2006. On the other hand, she has room for growth in Greater Minnesota, where she isn't yet well-known, and a background in public safety, generally a strong background from which to run.

As with all the candidates I've interviewed, time will tell.

Find Gaertner's campaign online at http://www.susangaertner.com/

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Question for you Joe (0.00 / 0)
Did you by any chance ask her is she is indeed planning to aide by the endorsement or if she plans on a Primary run if she does not get it.

At the St Paul Ward 4 convention, I heard her say she was going to abide, but have not seen that anywhere else.

Just curious.

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She said explicitly that she would abide by the DFL endorsement (0.00 / 0)
So if another candidate receives the party's endorsement, she'll be done in June 2010.

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Thanks for the claification (0.00 / 0)
I appreciate it.  Just wanted to make sure I wasn't making it up when I thought I had heard it at the Ward Convention.

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As you know (0.00 / 0)

I like Susan and think she's a top contender.  She seems to appeal to the middle.  To me that is important for the win.  

I especially like this:

Susan said:"One of the problems is that we're so far in the hole right now, that there's no easy way out of the hole Tim Pawlenty's dug for us. He's made the whole education system cut so close to the bone that cuts now would be into the bone itself. We need stable education funding."

That's really weighing on my mind.  I can't believe we can make any more education cuts.  My kids are already in classes that are 40+.

And having the rich better share the tax burden sounds good to me.  Not "tax the rich!" but instead she said talked about equalizing the playing field. I like that.  


Education does need funding... (0.00 / 0)
I will agree with that but I do not agree that Susan is the best candidate to get us out of the hole that Pawlenty has put us in. We don't need someone who is in the middle, we need a bold progressive leader in MN that will fight for all Minnesotans. We need John Marty. He is right on all the issues and has been standing up while other democrats have been too scared to speak the truth. He will support progressive taxes, funding education and provide health care for all while balancing the budget. He is an example to the DFL party of how hard they should be fighting for the same things he has been speaking and working on for years before them. I fully support John Marty for Governor.

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Not a track record of good judgment (0.00 / 0)
Neither Gaertner's nor St Paul City Attorney Choi's records have been very good so far.  Out of all the charges brought to court so far, only Choi has been able to get a $50 fine for "illegal assembly" for a street medic who crossed the street to rinse out the pepper spray from a guy in a wheelchair.  The medic's lawyer called the verdict a "travesty of justice."  Which of course it was, if you believe in the right of free assembly at all.

In truth, Bob Fletcher is just plain delusional and Gaertner is not doing her job at all if she believes that his ravings are "beyond a reasonable doubt."  Her cases are going to be laughed out of court, because she has simply not done her job.

No candidate is perfect, of course, but some behaviors have got to be deal-breakers, and I believe that Gaertner's behavior falls under that category.  If she were a true public servant, she wouldn't be prosecuting these nutso cases.  She would be looking at a bit of video footage from the Uptake and other sources, and I am certain that she would find illegal behavior by Fletcher quite "beyond a reasonable doubt."


Let me just say... (0.00 / 0)

This blog leans far left, which is good, but the comments and articles are slanted toward one opinion vs. what might be the majority's feelings on some issues.

And so, this ranking might be skewed.


Huh? (0.00 / 0)
I think we have a pretty good assortment of center-left to far-left opinion on most issues, especially the candidates, so if you could provide a bit more detail Holly, that would be great.

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Ranking (0.00 / 0)

Yeah, I was reading both this and the DFL ranking post and commented in the wrong spot.

I respect your opinion, Joe, but I think this blog leans left (and on peace issues, far left).  We do need that in order to provide a spectrum of opinion and have a desired effect on the middle... but when we're talking candidates, I feel it would be better if you bloggers loved our own.  

You could have posted something like "Susan Gaertner believes she is at the helm, defending our rights..." (depending on what she believes).  Instead, the spin is in the other direction.  

It'd be nice to see every candidate in a positive spin.


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Not sure I agree Holly (0.00 / 0)
I think some writers on MNPP, specifically those who write about the peace movement, do tend to go way left.

But Joe and E and others who post regularly do a really good job of representing a middle ground withing the DFL.

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I respect your opinion (0.00 / 0)

While I respect your opinion, I question the "Within the DFL" part.  Within the DFL?  

If that is truly a goal, I'd sure like to see a lot more about the DFL and what it's trying to do.

What does progressive (Progressive) mean?  Anyone?  Bueller...


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Google site (0.00 / 0)

Okay, so maybe you are right.

site:mnprogressiveproject.com DFL

There is a lot of DFL mention.  Maybe I'm not reading at the right times, or blind.  


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Pro War (0.00 / 0)
Nice to know that you are pro-war, Holly and that you think being a peace advocate is an extreme not respectful position to hold. Nice to know that where you are is "middle" and "best" and that everyone else is wrong. That "left" remark sounds very Republican. I happen to think there are far many more positions than a single line. I think all the positions in the Democratic party are deserving of respect.

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Sorry Kelly (0.00 / 0)

Nice to know?  Why would it be nice to know?

I am not a hawk, just a realist.  I'll admit there are good times for war.  Iraq was not one of them, and I'm trying to figure out Afghanistan.

MLK tactics, yes. Raising alarm over clear abuse of power, yes.  

But defending anarchists who reject the state, oppose the police, and purport violence is a bit out of the normal range for a peace lover. IMO

I think:  Raise your voice, not your arms.  But you think differently, I believe.

All positions within the Democratic Party?  We need one that unifies us all.  


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I know (0.00 / 0)

I know I'm saying things you don't like, Kelly, but please don't call to yell at me about "Not on my blog".  This is how I see it.

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Interesting reframing, Holly.... (0.00 / 0)
Wow, Holly just mentions the word "leftist" and the entire discussion comes to a screeching halt.  No more discussion about the Ramsey County Prosecutor's duty to evaluate evidence from crazy Bob Fletcher.  No more discussion about the likely loss of civil liberties, should Gaertner actually become governor.  No more discussion of any issues whatsoever.  Holly says "leftist" and the entire blog goes defensive and the entire substantive discussion completely stops.  Good job, Holly!  With any luck, we won't even have to think about Susan Gaertner's qualifications for the gov job, since we are all so busy defending our lefty selves.  Hell, we don't even have to think about anybody's actions at all, neither Gaertner's nor Fletcher's nor the RNC 8's nor our own, since we are so wrapped up in your accusation.  

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