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Steve Kelley: state government 'can and ought to be a lot more creative'

by: Joe Bodell

Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 21:36:00 PM CST


May as well start this post with a disclaimer: I got my start in Minnesota politics working on the early stages of then-State Sen. Steve Kelley's 2006 gubernatorial bid. I couldn't stay on the campaign due to economic concerns, but remained a strong supporter of that bid, which ended in an exciting floor fight against eventual DFL nominee Mike Hatch.

Kelley told me in an interview earlier this week that he sent out a letter to his fundraising list just before Christmas, got a good response, and has been working since then to raise money and make himself a part of the race.

My first question for him was (hopefully) obvious: Why? After a 2006 generally considered catastrophic for his political fortunes (an unsuccessful gubernatorial endorsement campaign and a primary loss against Lori Swanson in the Attorney General's race), why is he exploring another run?

His response: "Teaching at the Humphrey School, I've interacted with so many students, seen why they're there and what they hope to accomplish - they want to make a difference in the world, particularly around climate change and environmental issues. Talking with them about the responsibilities of leadership, it's been a real privilege to help the see and think about issues in different ways ... but it became apparent that I couldn't just talk about leadership and not take another run at it again."

Sounds reasonable enough. Once someone gets the political bug, it's my understanding that it's difficult to shake. But the 2010 field is very different from 2006 -- there are approximately four times as many candidates exploring a run this cycle as last. What will Kelley's approach be?

Much more after the break

Joe Bodell :: Steve Kelley: state government 'can and ought to be a lot more creative'
"One thing I've learned from past campaigns and from Humphrey: we can and ought to be a lot more creative. One of my strengths is that I'm logical in parsing out problems, but it's also important to build on creative strengths that campaign folks have and use those strengths to appeal to Democrats and voters generally."

Kelley told me about some upcoming events his campaign has planned, and they are definitely outside the box -- entitled "Creative Conversations," they seek to combine political talk with philosophy, the arts, and innovation.

"Outside the box" may be a necessity, both for Kelley personally and for any candidate to have an advantage in a crowded field. The biggest critique in his 2006 campaign was his policy-wonk approach to the issues and a deliberate, almost plodding campaign style. Supporters framed "deliberate" as "disciplined" but detractors complained that it was difficult for Kelley to rouse a crowd. Ultimately, he did prove an ability to inspire, closing well ahead of the DFL State Convention and giving one hell of a speech before the delegates. Was it not quite enough just a tad too late?

Opinions vary.

Of his time away from elected politics, Kelley spoke highly, talking about learning a "systems" approach to public policy: "the Bush administration blamed public schools for what was happening with kids, but the public school system is just one of the systems that touches kids' lives - housing, health care, transportation, all these systems touch and influence kids' lives. If we're going to help kids succeed, we've got to pay attention to most cost-effective ways of changing all of those systems that deal with kids so that we're not just helping them do better in school, but in neighborhoods, in families, all aspects of their lives."

Are draconian cuts to education programs necessary to help close the pending state budget gap? No, says Kelley. If things had gone differently and he had become Governor, "we may have had to use the shifts Governor Pawlenty is proposing, there may have been no way around that. But I would be engaging the school districts in conversations, which is something the governor never does. He hands out ultimatums, doesn't try to work with the school officials, and blames them for inefficiencies in the system. I would be engaging local officials in finding innovations for their school systems together - if state could be more helpful in buying materials, negotiating better deals for groups of school districts, that's what we should be doing, not blaming them outright for the inefficiencies in the system."

How to win a statewide race? Ah, that got Kelley out of policy-wonk mode and a bit more fired up. "I've lived through three campaigns by Democratic gubernatorial candidates who said they were going to win by hitting the L [the rural "L" formed by the 7th and 1st Congressional districts]. The loss in 2006 was not just a last-minute screw-up by Mike Hatch -- it was a fundamental error in thinking about how to win the gubernatorial race. I suppose some Dems will disagree, but Barack Obama and Amy Klobuchar have demonstrated that we can run statewide, run a campaign that appeals to everyone, and win. To run a gubernatorial race where we don't even try to compete in the suburbs is just nuts. We've tried it three times, we've lost thre times, and we cannot win that way."

Will he abide by the DFL endorsement as he did in 2006? Kelley said it sounds like several candidates are planning to run in the primary: "if that's the assumption, if I'm going to serious about this, I have to be prepared to run in a primary. It would be great if everyone abided, but that doesn't look like it's happening."

Are things in the 2010 cycle different than they were in 2006? Definitely. Are the challenges for Steve Kelley perhaps even greater than they were then? Definitely. But he still speaks well of his record and accomplishments on education and environmental issues, and believes he brings a winning formula that can win in 2010.

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Interesting (0.00 / 0)
glad to see he realizes the campaigns of the last three candidates had flawed strategies, I wish he also understood that you've got to turn out the base as well, another failing of Hatch. But he sounds like a better candidate then he was before.

As a four time loser I'm a little wary of Kelly to be honest,   but we could definitely do worse.  


Kelley -- third time's NOT the charm (0.00 / 0)
With emerging progressive stars in the DFL (Thissen, Simon, etc.) why should we sell ourselves short with the likes of the same old Kelley, Dayton, and Entenza types?  We deserve better and can do better.    

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Okay, so... (0.00 / 0)
Kelley wants to run because he wants to make a difference in the world.  He plans to run a campaign that will appeal to everyone.  

On education (Kelley) says "we may have had to use the shifts Governor Pawlenty is proposing, there may have been no way around that" but he'd talk with the schools.

And he won't abide by an endorsement.  Pawlenty won because of Tim Penney and Ken Pentel, BTW.


I really like Steve Kelley... (0.00 / 0)
...I was a small part of his campaign (did a little data entry pre-convention) and was a delegate for him at the state convention in 2006.

All of that said, I am still holding a wait and see attitude right now. I like several candidates right now (Kelley, Marty, Thissen) and there might be more to come in later (Rybak, Coleman, Ritchie) that could change things. I look forward to watching this race unfold.

Thanks for the interview.

"...if my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine..."----Bob Dylan, 1965.


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Barack Obama and Amy Klobuchar have demonstrated that we can run statewide, run a campaign that appeals to everyone, and win.

I'd argue that one of the main reasons Obama and Klobuchar won is that they were "new faces" for voters in a "change" mood.  By now, Steve Kelley, whatever his admirable qualities, is a three-time loser whose image is kind of a generic, bland, white guy in his 50s.

To run a gubernatorial race where we don't even try to compete in the suburbs is just nuts.

But when Steve Kelley faced Minnesota voters in the 2006 AG race, he didn't do that well in suburban counties.

ANOKA

Swanson 38.1%
Luther  34.1%
Kelley  27.8%

DAKOTA

Swanson 39.7%
Kelley  31.4%
Luther 28.9%

WASHINGTON

Luther 37.2%
Swanson 35.0%
Kelley  27.8%

I haven't taken the time to separate the St. Paul and Minneapolis votes from Hennepin and Ramsey Counties to see what the suburban vote was within those two areas.  A look at the precinct results shows that Kelley performed very well in his own Senate District of St. Louis Park and Hopkins, but a random look at other Hennepin and Ramsey suburban precincts shows him performing at similar levels to those listed above.


That makes NO sense... (0.00 / 0)
...you are basing your judgement on Democratic Primary numbers. Are you saying that those people that voted for either Luther or Swanson in a DFL primary wouldn't vote for Kelley if he were the nominee? By the same logic people who supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries wouldn't have supported Barack Obama in the general election. We all know how that turned out.

You have proven nothing.

"...if my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine..."----Bob Dylan, 1965.


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Neither have you or Kelley (0.00 / 0)

Kelley was the one who claimed that he was appealing to suburban voters.  No proof of this was offered.  He simply asserted it.  Sure, it's an imperfect measure, but his totals in the primary are the only measure we have to go on.  He had the most money of the three candidates, the DFL endorsement, and a pre-existing support structure from his Governor's campaign.  Despite these advantages, he still failed to carry most of the suburbs, which had claimed were his strength.

The burden of proof here is on you and Kelley, not me.  If you think Kelley is right that he would have been especially appealing to suburban voters outside his Senate District, nothing is stopping you from offering an argument more substantive than "Yuh-huh!"


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You are really making a BS argument... (0.00 / 0)
...and one NOT based on what Kelley said. You cherrypicked several counties that are not even part of the "L"  of the 7th and 1st Congrssional Districts. He's talking about Democrats NOT writing off certain areas of the state because they are considered "Republican". He's basically reiterating Howard Dean's 50 State Strategy when he was the head of the DNC, and given the fact that in 2006 Tim Walz won the 1st (defeating an incumbent no less), NOT writing off people might actually work.

You are arguing a different set of criteria in a different area of the state than what Kelley was talking about. I can guarantee you with 95% certainty that DFLers in Anoka, Washington, & Dakota counties will support whoever the DFL nominee is. Like I said, we heard those arguments before from Hillary Clinton supporters.

You "analysis" is full of sound and fury, signifying NOTHING.

"...if my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine..."----Bob Dylan, 1965.


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To be fair (0.00 / 0)
I notice there are more negative comments than positive, here.  To be fair, you should interview and discuss all of the candidates.  

I'm thinking we could do a better job protecting our own and compare them to Republicans instead of picking them apart?  Unless we really don't think they'll win and we want to win.  

It's not amazing that Walz won.  Mower county is heavily democratic, yes?  One of the Dem candidates down there didn't even have a campaign website and still won.  But Tim, who I thought was against the bailout, is now supporting stimulus bills.  Good.  Maybe a gub race wouldn't be so bad.



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