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What went wrong in CD3? (and how can we fix it?)

by: Joe Bodell

Sat Dec 27, 2008 at 16:43:57 PM CST


In the comments of TonyAngelo's great starter piece on the 2006 and 2008 House races (I am looking forward to the next such piece with great interest), I got into it a little with lams712, who wrote of the 2008 race:
[Madia] DID NOT WIN a WINNABLE race, so by definition it wasn't that well run or else he WOULD HAVE WON. You can accuse me of "painting with broad brushstrokes" but the end result is still the same. Maybe the dispute lies as to whether the race was winnable (I think of the 3 Republican-held seats it was the best chance---NO incumbent and held for a long time by a moderate Republican).
My intention wasn't to make accusations, only to highlight the fact that in some races, you can run a solid campaign and still lose. However, lams712 is right about at least one thing -- some things went wrong in CD3 this year, and I've been sorting through what I saw on the front and back ends of the Madia campaign and how we might prevent the same problems from happening in 2010 (if Dems want any chance to beat Erik Paulsen before he becomes entrenched in the seat).

Analysis after the break.

Joe Bodell :: What went wrong in CD3? (and how can we fix it?)
Was the Third District winnable?

I believed on November 4th and continue to believe today that yes, the 2008 Third District race was winnable. Lots of numbers back that up -- best PVI, best DPI, best DFL record at the state level, the list goes on.

That's a bigger assumption than it sounds like -- if it's understood that this race was winnable, that means that there was something that should have been done differently, or something that, had it happened differently, would have resulted in a win for Madia.

Moving on...

Was Ash Madia the best candidate?

Let's take this issue on right from the get-go. I endorsed Ash Madia before the CD3 DFL convention, so my biases on the topic are clear. In my personal opinion, he was the hardest-working candidate and deserved to be the DFL's nominee.

But let's at least take a look at the real question: Would Terri Bonoff have won?

My best answer: I don't know. Hindsight is always 20/20, so it's easy to look back at a loss and say "see! We should have endorsed the other candidate!" without any trace of critical thought. I also don't want to get into an argument over why she lost the endorsement fight -- we've been over that before, it's water under the bridge, and if public appearances are any indications, Sen. Bonoff is over it too.

What we do know is that Erik Paulsen's most successful attacks had nothing to do with Ash Madia's experience in politics, but rather contained thinly-veiled and not-so-thinly-veiled attacks on his tax and economic platform. More on that below, but the point is this -- Bonoff's strongest argument in her own favor was that of local political experience, but that weakness was not used to large effect against Madia in the general election.

Now that those points are out of the way (and I'm sure they'll generate at least one or three comments), what actually went wrong? In retrospect, I think these need to be divided into  three categories -- things that went wrong for Madia, things that went right for Paulsen, and structural issues the DFL needs to resolve.

Things that went wrong for Madia

Ash Madia had a pretty sizeable stumble out of the party convention gate: he hired the wrong campaign manager. It took time to transition between a convention strategy/staff and a successful general election setup, and that was valuable time lost.

Once that was resolved, Madia raised a boatload of money for this race. He had the resources at hand to get his face, his voice, and his positions in front of lots of voters during the general election.

But when the inevitable attacks arrived two weeks before the election, using the same old tired "tax and spend liberal ZOMGZ" voiceover and grainy, scary-looking images of the Marine vet, where was the canned response? Closed circuit to all Democratic candidates and campaigns everywhere: your Republican opponent is going to accuse you of being a tax-and-spend liberal. Planning to run in 2014? Come up with a response now. Can it, and make sure it's ready to go when it happens. Plan for it in your budget.

The Madia campaign failed to do this. When the attacks came, they showed up in huge numbers (more on that below) and Madia's positive message virtually disappeared.

Madia's campaign also failed to roll with the punches of the economy. To a certain degree it wasn't the candidate's fault, but his strongest appeal was as a veteran and critic of the Bush Administration's Iraq adventure. When the economic recession became Issue #1, it didn't seem like the campaign was prepared to offer a detailed, succinct platform position in new TV ads.

What went right for the Paulsen campaign

Erik Paulsen had a major, major advantage heading into this race -- Retiring Rep. Jim Ramstad. Although Paulsen is a good deal more conservative on the issues than Ramstad, personal loyalty meant Ramstad was in Paulsen's corner from square one.

But press conferences and a personal endorsement only went so far. Ramstad had more to offer his former protege than just PR.

In the final weeks of the campaign, a sudden influx of advertising spending appeared out of nowhere from the Republican Party of Minnesota. Where did it come from? More to the point, where did the money to pay for the ad buy come from? The answer may lie in Ramstad's final FEC report, due next month. As with toys when you die, you can't really take your campaign warchest with you when you go. There's a very good chance that Ramstad dumped a very large portion of his considerable warchest into the RPM's coffers for the purpose of just such a last-minute ad blitz on Paulsen's behalf. The timing works; when the report is filed we'll know for sure.

When that final ad blitz hit, it worked -- in conjunction with attacks from outside groups, Paulsen and his allies successfully drowned out Madia's ads, and internal polling showing a 1-5 point advantage turned into an 8-point defeat on November 4th.

Structural issues

Is the DFL's situation in the West Metro better than it was four years ago? Light years better. That fact, in and of itself, does not tell us a whole lot. The district-wide field operation still has a long way to go. Maple Grove, Plymouth, the areas around Lake Minnetonka -- these are still very, very tough areas for the DFL.

In addition, the outside organizations had a significant impact on this race. There may not have been any direct coordination between Paulsen and his allies, but they all knew going in what the message was: Attack the Democrat on taxes, say he'll raise them and hurt your families. Include some scary-looking images of the brown guy for effect. For Madia and other Democrats, the only large-scale independent expenditure comes from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which in the case of the Third district, produced some really sucky ads. No, forget "sucky," these ads were downright insulting to the intelligence of the average voter. There was no uniform message between the Democratic party organs, the campaign, and their allied IE groups -- and their IE groups didn't have the budget to spend large sums on ads anyway.

In short, there's a gap between the size of the loudspeakers Democrats and Republicans get to use in the Third, and without a vastly superior field organization, that gap matters.

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Don't forget the Independence Party (0.00 / 0)
Joe, you left out what I consider the single biggest factor. The IP candidate, David Dillon, ran a serious campaign. IP candidates appear to consistently pull much more from the DFL than the Republicans. It's all anecdotal since I know of no poll asking IP voters who their second choice would be, but if I'm right, Dilon's votes came heavily from voters who would otherwise have voted for Madia. Without Dillon, Madia probably still wouldn't lead, but my guess is the 8% deficit becomes a 1% or 2% deficit. I think the same holds true for the CD6 race and the senate race. Without Bob Anderson, Tinklenberg would have won. Without Barkley, Franken would have won by enough to avoid a recount.

This is local, and with a recognition of the difficulty of extrapolating statewide, I saw the results for my ward in Minneapolis. McCain won 20%, and Coleman won 20%. Obama won 78%, but Franken had 64%, and Barkley 15%.

Given how non-campaigning Anderson won as much as hard-campaigning Dillon, and Barkley got only 15% despite statewide free media, it seems the IP is a ready stand-in for "none of the above" when voters get disgusted with negative campaigns.

So if we're going to think about the structural issues the DFL faces, the big one is the IP. The apparent willingness of soft-DFL voters to pronounce a pox on both houses earlier than soft-Republicans means a negative campaign gives an advantage to the Republicans. On the other hand, in a two-way race, DFLers normally win. I'm convinced if there's no IP candidate for governor in 2010, we win the governorship. How to bring about this circumstance I don't know. The IP gave its official endorsement to Tinklenberg and Sarvi, and it didn't help a bit, so that's not the answer.


Endorsement definitely didn't matter in CD6 (0.00 / 0)
because of the loophole Anderson exploited to get on the ballot -- namely, that El Tinklenberg, despite being the party's endorsed candidate, could not appear on the general election ballot on two parties' lines.

In CD3, you're right, Dillon was indeed a factor -- and while it's anecdotal, I believe fixing the DFL's issues from the top to the bottom will yield better results regardless of what happens with the third parties. In short, we should be able to suppress the pox-on-both-houses feelings.

The Senate race is something else altogether -- contrary to what we normally think about where IP votes come from, polling from mid-September to election day actually indicated that Barkley was taking more votes from Coleman ("I'm pretty conservative, but Coleman's a jerk....but I still can't make myself vote for Franken") than from Franken. Not by much, but when the recount margin is what, 50 votes out of 2.9 million cast.....


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Not so much later on (0.00 / 0)
You have a point about the earlier polls, but in later polls, the pattern of Republicans getting in line more than Democrats held true.

I should also mention that Barkley beat the IP endorsed candidate in the primary, so there is another instance of the IP endorsement meaning squat. They clearly don't have a functional party yet, just a line on the ballot, so I continue to regard them as a default "none of the above" choice.

At the risk of undercutting my own argument, there were two other third party candidates, both from conservative parties and with too few votes to affect the outcome --- that is, most elections' outcomes. Combine their votes with Barkley's and I'm more open to the idea that third party votes were a wash.

Of course, there are a couple other factors being missed: the Republicans have a strong state party whatever their national condition, and sometimes the opposing candidate runs a good campaign. It's just not as simple as winning-campaign=good-campaign, losing-campaign=bad-campaign. You can run a good campaign and still lose.


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While the IP vote may come (0.00 / 0)
more from DFL leaning voters than Republican it isn't by an enormous margin and most of their support comes from neither DFLers or Republicans.

If Dillon isn't on the ballot Media doesn't get to within 1 percent. For this to happen Media would have to have won an overwhelming amount of Dillon voters, more than we can reasonably assume. If Dillon's votes were distributed 80% to Media and 20% to Paulson this gets us to Paulson winning by a little more than 1%. I don't think 80/20 is a reasonable split assumption though. I think the best we could get is 60/40 and even that seems like wishful thinking. At a 60/40 split Media would still have lost by more than 5 points.

If the IP was responsible for any of our loses this year it was in CD6, not CD3. As you mentioned, Dillon campaigned, Anderson didn't and they both got 10%. Not only that but Tinklenberg got the IP endorsement and Anderson still got 10%. The problem here was that the IP still had a candidate on the ballot in CD6 who was not their endorsed candidate. But even with all that said Tinklenberg would have had to win 65% of Anderson's vote to pull ahead of Bachmann, not out of the question if his IP endorsement was on the ballot, but still a big number.

No doubt the IP party presents a problem for the DFL but it is not an insurmountable one and I think it's folly to blame our loses on them. There are other factors at play and they are not going away. This a structural issue that needs some serious discussion, but also a plan of attack. Blaming the IP gets us no closer to addressing the issue.


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DCCC (0.00 / 0)
I make this a separate comment since it's a separate point. I agree completely about the dreadful commercials the DCCC ran. They did for (to?) Wetterling in 2006 too. My impression, and this is admittedly without going race by race and quantifying it, is the DCCC does more harm than good. The dump a bunch of money into attack ads, usually bad ones, and undermine the candidates they propose to help.  

Who has data? (0.00 / 0)
This one of a handful of post-CD3 posts that I've seen.  Unfortunately, all the posts seem to be based on speculation.  I also have a lot of ideas about what went wrong, but without some polling data I'm just guessing.  Does anyone have any polling data-based analysis (exit or otherwise)?  What does it say?  Does it say CD3 voters don't like tax and spenders?  They don't like inexperience?  They were ticket splitting?  Did they think Madia was just as negative as Paulsen (anecdotally that's what I've heard -- much to my frustration)?  

I think we can all agree on one thing -- the DCCC shares a large portion of blame for this defeat.  I mean, really:  fat cats lighting stogies with dollars? That was the best they could do? Those ads were laughably bad.  

I also think you're on the right track on the lack of a meaningful response to Paulsen's attacks.  But I am just guessing.  If we want to win this seat someday, we'll need to be more certain as to how this well-funded and competitive candidate failed.


I'm working on that (0.00 / 0)
I have some resources to call on for material for the next piece, so watch for it :)

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Where the DFL can come in... (0.00 / 0)
I've argued this for awhile now (and been thoroughly ignored by the DFL) but thats precisely what we should be doing in the off year in targeted districts- focus groups, polls (I think focus groups are 1000x better than polls) and figure out what people in those districts respond to, the candidates don't often have the time or money to do that (especially thanks to an elongated primary season) so the party should be stepping in and actually playing a role  

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Forums/Focus Groups/Polls (0.00 / 0)
Excellent suggestions, NorthernDebater.  Meetups give an effective communications method for reaching out to new potential voters but it takes a lot of effort to find experts to speak and to market the events.  Now is it the time to build these events and to draw more people in to the party and to listen to their feedback on this past cycle.  Have you offered to host these type of events or forums or set up focus groups?  Who turned you down?  I can't imagine any senate district not wanting the events in their district!  

While candidates need to hit the ground running with their reasons for running already in place and the background to support those reasons (i.e., focus groups and forums), they can't spend their time or money doing this.  It is the party's business.  I'd be interested in hearing what your senate district said about your offer to host these events?  Lots of people have great ideas.  It's not the ideas that the party pooh-poohs...it's trying to find someone to carry them out.  Usually it's the same old group who always show up and do the work.  It would be nice to see more people show up to work on party business and not just during an exciting campaign.  Sometimes a party unit turns down an idea because they know they haven't got anyone willing to do the work.  


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OK, it's a Cut'nPaste, but: (0.00 / 0)
I said it before, and I'll repost it here:

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In CD-3, Erik Paulsen started his campaign by claiming something he is not - a moderate; and running from his record as fast as he possibly could.
And he got away with it.

Why?

The GOP simply controlled the message better than Team Madia did.

And they controlled the message better, even when the message they were pushing simply wasn't true.

How they did that is the subject for a different thread.  The point Sara makes, about messaging, is (IMNSHO) correct.
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Team Hustler, er, 'scuse me, "Paulsen", even with a bull(feathers) message, did a better job pushing their bull(feathers) message than Team Madia did.

"Those that forget the lessons of history, tend to vote GOP"


Paulsen (0.00 / 0)
Excellent point, Tommy.  Madia's campaign was nowhere to be found on the air refuting the end of the campaign garbage from Paulsen.  He had good ads but they were not seen at all the final week - let alone the final weekend - of the campaign.  They had the money in the ad buys but the ads weren't on programs where they were seen by voters.  

I do hold Dillon responsible for much of this loss.  Instead of being seen as a viable alternative in the 3rd, the DFL is seen as "loosing" badly when the reality is far from the truth.  We had the right candidate but the wrong closing endgame for that candidate and there is one thing not discussed here:  The US Chamber of Commerce effort to buy these races.  

Doug Loon, registered federal lobbyist for the US Chamber of Commerce and regional director for the US Chamber of Commerce, was in charge of the Chamber's ground game.  It was pooh-poohed by those in several campaigns but they played a HUGE role in these races.  Several excellent candidates were hit by multiple pieces by the Chamber over the past weeks of the race without any response.  

Doug Loon had every vested interest in Paulsen winning as well as his wife winning in 42B (against Jerry Pitzrick).  Lee Carlson also had a barrage of Chamber pieces as did Clint Faust.  Those candidates that were deemed in danger were papered by the US Chamber.  The bottom line:  Doug Loon was a known problem from August on when several Dems sat at the Dunn Brothers in Eden Prairie at a private, invitation only Coleman event and watched Norm Coleman introduce Jenifer Loon and talk about how wonderful she is as a candidate and then turn to introduce Doug Loon and talk about "all he has done for us".  At a private invitation only GOP event it was obvious who "us" were.  No one else was worried or saw it coming but those of us there were.  

Basically, Doug Loon used his position as US Chamber of Commerce registered lobbyist to direct funds to move his wife's seatholder up the food chain to Ramstad's seat, put his wife into the seat in 42B and to keep Sarah Anderson and Kurt Zellers in their seats.  

CD3 needs to look at the outside forces also impacting these races in our district.  It's not only structural problems with the DFL organization and the idiocy of the IP party always handing wins to the GOP, it's also the money thrown at races by outside vested groups that we need to plan for.  


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3rd District (0.00 / 0)
I think Madia had a far too narrow message for the 3rd District.  In essence he was an anti-Iraq War Candidate, which is what attracted him to the DFL Convention, but in the end the election turned on economic and pocketbook issues, and he really had not developed an economic message that could ultimately counter the generic "Tax and Spend" stuff thrown at him in the last couple of weeks.  Lord one should anticipate that...and anyone reading election history of the past 20 years should know the Republican play book.  Taxes and Spending will always beat Foreign or Military Policy with people who make late decisions, and we should know that by now.  

Rather than think about specific personalities at this beginning point in the next cycle, why not construct your "Ideal Type" candidate, test it with, yes Focus Groups, not polls, (Focus groups selected to weight toward independent voters), and just see what kind of economic message tends to work -- and then offer that information to any candidate looking at the race, and indeed ask those who run as Congressional (state) delegates whether they comprehend selecting along this dimension.  (In 2010 we will probably select state delegates based on Governor -- it will be difficult to introduce this dimension unless we do it early.)  

I expect Paulsen to be voting against pieces of Obama's Stimulus and jobs package, possibly against Health Care Change, against some of the Green Economy pieces, and probably against enhanced regulation of Financial Institutions.  These are, properly positioned, just excellent targets on which to attack him, given that he seems co-oped by the Chamber of Commerce positions.  People in the 3rd district need to be kept aware of his voting record on these things, and clear examples of why they are counter to the interests of real people in the 3rd District.  

These economic issues are not classic wedge issues such as the abortion and gay rights stuff we've had to deal with over the years, but the DFL should treat them as "our wedgies" -- the ones we throw at Republicans that cause people to think and divide.  

And yes, we have to take on the IP.  Too few people understand that most third party candidates who manage to get elected, are really powerless in the legislative process.  They don't achieve leadership in a caucus even if they join one.  Voters don't understand this -- they don't understand that picking a third party candidate is voting for powerlessness and no real influence.  This isn't an issue to be raised at the last minute, it is something we need to get into the public discourse now, and keep pushing it.  

My impression is that a good many IP'ers have been funded from Republican sources over the years -- they are in many cases people who appeal to what's left of Progressive Republicanism, which has no place in today's MN R caucus or party, but are used to distract, particularly distract Independent Voters who in fact do vote mixed tickets.  DFL rhetoric needs to make this clear over and over again in ways that will diminish the attractiveness of voting 3rd Party.  Given the recount and the degree to which people understand right now that "every vote counts" -- now is the time to push this message.  

And once this recount is over we really need to study where the Franken drop-off from Obama's numbers occurred and built up Barkley's.  That will tell us where that message needs to be delivered.  


I think it came down to who they trusted (0.00 / 0)
The problem Madia had the entire problem was was he a viable candidate?  This is something he had to work to prove since he announced his candidacy.

First off, he was a nobody when he announced meaning that he had to work his way up to being considered a serious candidate both to Bonoff and Paulsen.  Second, he personally doesn't match the district.

So to elaborate on the first point.  Madia had no built in political creds.  He worked his way through the DFL endorsement process and ended up on top with the DFL, but we're people who look at past experience and credentials but also vision and policy positions.  Then comes the general election against Paulsen, who has served in the state house for nearly two decades and was the Majority Leader.  Obviously, people with zero political experience can beat the opposite, but it's hard and takes more than a compelling story to convince people to vote for you if they don't know who you are.  So when you compare the two candidates resumes, clearly Paulsen will stand out more Congressionally than Madia and thus I believe helped him earn quite a few more votes.

Second point, Madia doesn't fit the district.  And as an opening statement to this, there is no racism being accused of whatsoever in this post.  But simply put, Madia doesn't fit the district, Paulsen does.  Madia is an Indian-American whose parents immigrated here before he was born.  He is a bachelor, no kids, and doesn't have a record of employment really yet.  (Although one could classify his time in the Marines as employment experience, however simply saying you were in the Marines I don't think implies to many people employment experience but rather service experience.)  And then Paulsen is a born and raised Minnesotan with a Norwegian last name to boot.  Wife, four kids, and a record of working in the district.  Also to note, Madia is only 31 and I can see this CD worrying about issues that most probably assume are over a 31 year old who has never owned a house's head.  Who would do you people will vote for if policy issues are completely ignored?  Most would choose Paulsen, he automatically seems more able to address the problems a typical family faces, especially as someone who knows what it is like to raise a family.

One other point to play off that last one, which goes more along the race line.  If you are a completely undecided voter with no leanings towards one candidate or the other or one party of the other, who do you think a typical white Norwegian/German Minnesotan is going to choose?  The guy with the name we aren't sure how to pronounce, or the dude named Paulsen.  Again, I don't think that is racially motivated but rather, which name is more familiar.  (There of course had to be some racist motivation based off of Madia's name alone, though.  And on the flip, a number probably said, dude I'm totally voting for the Indian guy, or at least I think he's Indian.)

In reality, people vote for a candidate based off of three major topic areas.  The candidates policy positions, their record of service, and the nonsensical category where people come up with whatever personal reasons to support someone or not.  (Ps, we aren't normal people and vote in the general based solely on policy positions.)  Paulsen won 2/3 and the last one, policy positions is a tie because Paulsen effectively stole that win for Madia.


"... the nonsensical category..." (0.00 / 0)
Which is what I call "the coffee cup factor" - who would you rather sit down over a cuppa joe with?

Team Hustler spent a LOT of time telling people, "gosh darn it, Erik's so likable; people across the aile like him, too!"

Which - of course - is complete bull(feathers).

But bull(feathers) is all Team Hustler played.

And the bull(feathers) message was never effectively countered.

Which is why Madia lost; Team Madia lost the communications war.

"Those that forget the lessons of history, tend to vote GOP"


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Joe, I hope I didn't make you angry... (0.00 / 0)
....and you did't make me angry at all (sometimes tone is difficult to convey via typing). I am just a progressive DFLer who was a little disappointed that we failed to pick up a single congressional seat out of three (there was a time I actually thought we could win all three), with CD-3 being the best shot.

In a previous comment I said that maybe Terri Bonoff would have been a better candidate. What I mean by that is the fact that she being a state senator already had a familiarity with at least some of the voters and some semblance of a "base" with which to work. Madia seemed to come from nowhere from my outsider perspective. Now that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing, after all, we have Barack Obama as our next president rather than Hillary Clinton. Certainly we should give in to fear and prejudice and fail to nominate/endorse someone because the Republicans might be "mean" to them and us. But even Barack Obama had a base and some degree of recognition, so he wasn't TOTALLY out of nowhere (maybe people in CD-3 can speak to what base Madia had, there was obviously SOMETHING there or else he wouldn't have gotten the endorsement).

Other comments here have alluded to 2 BIG REASONS that taken together could have been decisive. First, Paulsen LIED about his record and was able to pass himself off as a moderate. I would also add that he ran a "superior" campaign, not superior in the sense that he was better on the issues, etc., but that he ran a great (typical) REPUBLICAN campaign of LIES, DISTORTIONS, and a little RACE-BAITING to boot that would have made Karl Rove proud. I guess I would then ask why did it seemed to work in this CD-3 race and NOT statewide (or nationwide) with Barack Obama on the top of the ticket? Secondly, the IP spoiler factor definitely played a role, but I think that might be over-rated a bit without some backing data. I always thought that the IP's mixture of liberal and conservative ideas basically drew from BOTH major parties in relatively equal numbers. Was it enough in this race?

I don't know who was in charge of Madia's commercials/message, but they should NEVER BE EMPLOYED BY ANY CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE AGAIN. As an outside observer what I remember most about this race is seeing RELENTLESS attack ads by the Republicans/Paulsen campaign with liitle or no response by Madia. As we know from the Karl Rove playbook, the ACTUAL TRUTH is irrelevant, once the attack is out there it seeps into the public consciousness. Absent an adequate response the attack BECOMES the truth as far as the average voter is concerned.

I guess when all is said and done we will find that there is NOT one single factor as to why Madia lost a seemingly winnable race, but a little bit of each smaller factor working in combination (a "perfect storm") to equal one big disappointment.

"...if my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine..."----Bob Dylan, 1965.


sorry---typo (0.00 / 0)
we should NOT give into fear and prejudice.......

"...if my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine..."----Bob Dylan, 1965.

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